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 By Nose For Gold

06/21/2005  10:14PM

Rae: When I say the new road, I called the Forest Service in Camptonville and they told me they constructed it. This is after the Brush Creek road that washed out.
 By Rae Bell

06/20/2005  8:33AM

Nose for Gold, where did you get this info? I know Brush Creek put a new road in there when they had it, but the Forest Service?
 By Nose For Gold

06/18/2005  1:35PM

At the Carson mine, the US Forest Service built a new road into the property so employees could remove ore cars, sell them and pocket the money.
 By Michael Miller

06/18/2005  12:52PM

Gfxgold, were you expecting a response from TominGV? I was. You must have severed his thread. It is disappointing that he never continued his topic. Grass Valley and environs also house wide spread “meth” users, a very dangerous illegal drug. Having witnessed first hand its effects in Alleghany, I will bet the noisemakers in the late night time hours are not gold miners but drug users. It could not be a Tommy knocker. Tommy knockers are considerate chaps. If they were working late at night, no one would be disturbed.

Other than our crew and a few scattered operations, there are no active miners left in the Grass Valley area. TominGV is likely a ‘newbee” to the area or the world of hard rock mining as practiced in the Sierra Nevada. Like so many well-meaning people who have migrated into the gold country of California, his perception of what it takes to find gold is pitifully lacking truth. Mining ranks with the world’s most intense blue-collar jobs. It requires a complex variety of talent, knowledge, equipment and money. If the noisemakers are gold miners, they are hopeless dreamers and will quickly discontinue their activities.

So, TominGV, where is your credible thread. This topic is headed for the Misc. file. I’m sure Gfxgold, Bluejay, Nose for Gold, Rick, Auriferous and others are interested in your views of the nighttime underground miners of Grass Valley. Two points: The bat reference is for real. I have worked at the Sierra County Park called the Kentucky Mine. The bat population was a factor to consider. In the Plumas Eureka State Park bat habitat was also a factor. There is a foam product that seals abandoned portals. I agree with Gfxgold: fix the safety issue but don’t destroy the asset. A while ago I reported that current USGS maps have eliminated the pick and shovel designation for mines. Is this another aspect of reducing the American’s knowledge of our natural resources?

If you really want to know who has been ripping off and destroying the mining artifacts and culture in the Sierra Nevada gold belt, look no further than the United States Forest Service. Working out of Nevada City and Camptonville, the top management is leading the cultural rural cleansing campaign. Ignoring federal law (the Antiquities Act) forest service employees have been loading their green trucks with iron, important iron, and hauling it away. Many times it goes to private parties or is sold. What a shame! What a loss!
 By gfxgold

06/09/2005  9:51PM

TominGV, Of course, trespassing on private property or mining claims is frowned upon. If the police didn't find any evidence of wrong doing, then, some of the noises and voices that are reported may not be from living people. Mining areas are known to have unexplained noises and voices.
As for closing mine portals... If you're having illegal mining, then you have to have a place to get rid of the bodies, THEN you close the portal. Just kidding (wink,wink).
Blasting a portal closed is a last resort!!! Should you need or want to reopen the mine... well, it's a pain in the butt if it's been blown shut. Also, old mines are viewed as an environmental gold mine (no pun intended) as bat habitat. Go to: http://www.batcon.org/mines/industry.html
Now, to recap each of your points. If it's someone elses property that is being hygraded (illegally mined) tell the property or mine owner and let them deal with it. However, they might be the ones who are doing the mining, in which case, we'll never hear from you again (gee, was that someone blowing a portal shut this late at night?). If the mine is open to being claimed, more power to'em. If it's just the noises that people are upset about, get a priest and have him pray for the lost souls in the tunnel and may they rest in peace. If you want to close some mine portals, Why use explosives that "Real Miners" need for their jobs. If I were you, I'd be collecting money to build bat friendly gates to close the portals... that is, if you really are trying to stop illegal mining and not just trying to stop mining.
 By TominGV

06/09/2005  1:44PM

I want to start a new thread here on the poaching that is going on in old mines throughout Nevada County. Once in a while in the Police Blotter, you will see mention of people hearing machinery noises, hammering, even groups of people talking or other symptoms that "seem" to come from beneath the ground, from people who live in the vicinity of old gold mines. As we know, Grass Valley and environs are literally riddled like Swiss Cheese with old mine tunnels.
I first want to find out how "real"/legitimate miners view this poaching and illegal or surreptitious mining activity?
Then I'd like to get into how, if it's going on in our area, to find and stop it. And, how to find the old portals so we can get them blasted closed.
Thanks to all.
 By Rick

05/21/2005  8:15PM

I'd check the crevices!
 By gfxgold

05/20/2005  5:13PM

Well, if that's true, that photo should go on my website.
 By Nose For Gold

05/20/2005  12:29PM

Soon there will be a photo of all the water washing through the Osceola mill.
 By gfxgold

05/19/2005  12:02AM

C'mon guys, we've been hangin' out at the "Y" on the 800 level long enough! Let's see something new. Even if it's flowers growing out of the old muckin' machine in front of the office or Mike with his feet on his desk talkin' on the phone or maybe some bars of gold stacked up on a velvet pillow or some specimens or... anything!!!
Thanks, man. You're a Pal.
 By smithsgold

05/08/2005  12:31PM

How and What does one do to become a Hardrock Miner?
Thanks,
Jeff
 By gfxgold

01/22/2005  12:19AM

January 20, 2005 Alleghany, CA
Today, at the home of Michael M. Miller, a top-secret anti-terrorist weapon was prematurely tested. The "TI" (terrorist incinerator) had been powered up by Mr. Miller for a full systems check when he was distracted by the news on television. After the story he was watching finished, Mr. Miller got up to return to work on the "TI" when another story came on the television. This time the story was about Usama Bin Laden and his writings that are to be published. As soon as Bin Laden's photo came on the screen, the "TI" went into action. "The facial recognition software worked perfectly," was uttered by a singed Mr. Miller. "It was all I could do to just jump out of the way." The incinerating plasma burst was reported to have been over thirty feet and on target!
The official word from the Department of Homeland Security is that some mountainman's still blew up but, that they had to check it out anyway.
 By gfnevada

01/21/2005  11:41AM

Mike, do a google search with the words "multi slicing machine". You will find machines for slicing hard materials such as silicon or opals. Good luck.
 By Nose For Gold

01/19/2005  10:34PM

Also see: Calif. Division of Mines & Geol., County Report 6.
Midas (Gold Hill, Harrison Gulch, Victor & Twinvict) Sec.3,4 & 10, T.29N., R.10E. Owner Adele Moore, 608 Mid Ricon Rd., Santa Rosa.
 By gfxgold

01/19/2005  5:04PM

I found this article on the web about the Midas Mine. Go to:
http://www.treasurenet.com/westeast/data/feature/robots/200108.htm
 By Oak

01/19/2005  3:39PM

In the process of going through old family papers and organizing things, I recently came across stock certificates for the Harrison Gulch Mining Company totalling 7,100 shares at a buck each. These shares were bought by my late great uncle in 1920 and 1921. In doing some research I have figured out that this mining company had two mines; the Midas and the Victor, both up in Shasta County near the town of Knob. Along with the stock certificates is a geological report of the area and both mines and the potential for gold in each. Evidently the Midas Mine had a fire in the main shaft back in 1914 and it subsequently flooded. I don't know if it still is or not or if it has been since re-opened. That is why I am telling this story to see if any of you out there know anything or want to know more of what I have come across. There is also a letter written by a MG Henry from Sumner WA who bought the mine because it was in tax default since 1916. He evidently bought it in 1926. So let me know what you know - if anything.
 By Big R

01/18/2005  11:49PM

A little more than all the snow in Reno but not as bad.
 By lone miner

01/18/2005  8:00PM

how deep is the snow this year ps tell ian to get back to work
 By lone miner

01/18/2005  8:00PM

how deep is the snow this year ps tell ian to get back to work
 By gfxgold

01/17/2005  10:54PM

Troy,
The answer to your question is another question. Why do you want to know? There have been some people out there of late that have asked some pretty narrow questions of people in industry so that they could show a negative outcome of their hard work and to pad their own agendas. I hope that you are not one of those people. Perhaps if you were to write, call, or e-mail for a report from the 16 to 1 they might be more than happy to send you one. It doesn't hurt to ask. Besides, looking at one years production report doesn't tell you much more than just that. You really need to look at the history of the mine or, at least the last fifteen years. You need to factor in the amount of gold produced, labor, cost of daylighting, energy, price per ounce, market value of specimens per ounce, updated equipment, etc., etc., etc. Sometimes, a question can be to simple because, the answer doesn't mean anything. It might also be the case that they can't tell you that since they're a stock held company. And, since I'm not a member of the 16 to 1, I don't know either.

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