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 By Rick

10/16/2009  5:35PM

FYI, Scoop's message cracks a smile and a frown because it is sadly true...the EPA and the CRWQCB and the rest of the effers are looking for random symptoms to blame and fund their existence, end up logging data with hystorical (note the pun) and discard the hitorical significance from a century removed (check your history records) and then scratch their collective heads, angling for a new now-time blame game funding angle.

Scoop's reference to the price of mercury relates to the monetary waste involved in any modern-day environmental study...spending millions looking for demons and failing to look in the mirror.
 By SCOOP

10/15/2009  10:59AM

To minierbear. it's not a simple answer. Wiki answers with quotes at 36 cents a gram. 31.1 grams per ounce x 16 = 497.6 grams per pound or $179.13. A flask is 76 pounds and ranges between $500 and $600. Purity makes a price difference. The EPA spends $1 million or more for an ounce (in Grass Valley CA) and other places.
 By minierbear

10/14/2009  10:35PM

what is a pound of liquid mercury cost ?.
 By bluejay

10/01/2009  7:37PM

Our gold specimens for sale

I visited http://www.jsmineset.com tonight and saw a picture of Jim Sinclair showing some of his physical gold.

I did see a gold specimen that wasn't that too eye-appealing that appears to have come from the Red Lake Mine at Red Lake, Ontario. It might be a good idea to send him one of our gold brochures so in his next photo-op he can display some impressive 16 to 1 gold which is certainly more impressive.

Also, send some brochures to the managers of some of gold investment funds.
 By 4familyfun

09/21/2009  7:07PM

Thank you Mr. Miller, and I do understand, its a shame things have to be so difficult. The rewards of all those little faces would sure be wonderful though. Thanks for the advice and your time.
Mom with 2 boys
 By Michael Miller

09/21/2009  12:57PM

Dear Mother with two Boys,

Last week on the North Fork of the Yuba River, two men found some beautiful gold placer nuggets. I saw them at the Sierra Gold store in Downieville. They were nuggets, not flakes. They were striking in color and shape. The young fellow said the nuggets came from sluicing and panning. The find was impressive.

They dug under a large rock, using shovels and buckets. The river is low so they spent some time testing areas the looked promising. (Get your kids some good gold books or equipment at Sierra Gold in Downieville or other convenient locations, so your boys can use the experiences of successful gold finders in their mining.)

Your request of the Sixteen to One is one we hear frequently. What the other writer was saying to your request is that this company has responsibilities to its owners, and in today’s litigious society the rewards are not worth the risks of a lawsuit. Also the property is very large and the dangers are many.

You must not be discouraged to give your boys a “gold experience”. In the past our Company geologist has volunteered to prepare boy scouts for a geology or mining badge at the Sixteen to One mine. There are a few really exciting experiences that are free and available to almost everyone. Finding a nugget of California gold is one of those. Happy hunting. Remember: gold is where you find it and most of the gold in California has not been found.
 By 4familyfun

09/18/2009  8:51PM

Not a huge corporation, just a mother with two boys, wondering why nobody want to help keep the love for this alive. You would think that you would profit off of something like this.
 By martin newkom

09/18/2009  2:20PM

I would suggest to the party
who wishes to work the 16-1
tailings that he should consider buying out all the
other stockholders then that
party can rework tailings to
that one's heart's content,
orhterwise it will be the 16's
option to rework or not rework.
 By 4familyfun

09/15/2009  10:38PM

I live here somewhat locally, and my family loves to prospect. Not having a whole lot of experience at prospecting though, its hard to know where to go that is safe, and that welcomes you. I have seen many pay and pan advertisements in other states that people really seem to enjoy. I know would love to work the tailings of your mine, and i'm willing to bet the gold i havent found yet (and that is quite a bit) that a lot of others would too. So I'm asking would you please, please, please consider it.
 By chuck2251

09/10/2009  6:58PM

However, you may not be aware that suction dredge mining is currently regulated with respect to endangered and threatened species, with seasonal and size restrictions that prevent harm to these species. Suction dredge mining has been subjected to many studies that indicate this activity not only is de minimis to fish and their habitat under current regulations, but this is the only activity that occurs in our state waters that provides mitigation.1




Suction dredge mining creates dissolved oxygen and breaks up compacted gravels, creating the spawning areas, holes and cooler waters necessary for a healthy fish population. The DFG spends millions of dollars to create this same scenario for spawning fish.2



Suction dredge mining removes harmful lead, mercury and man-made debris from our waters. Washington has set up a program, in cooperation with suction dredge miners, to collect harmful metals and debris. Over a 12-month period the Washington Department of Ecology took possession of over 150 lbs. of mercury that had been recovered by suction dredge miners.3





California Mining Journal, Inc.
dba ICMJ’s Prospecting and Mining Journal
cc Honorable California Legislators
1 Effects of Small-Scale Gold Dredging on Arsenic, Copper, Lead, and Zinc Concentrations in the Similkameen River, Washington State Dept. of Ecology, March 2005, Publication No. 05-03-007.
Impact of suction dredging on water quality, benthic habitat, and biota in the Fortymile River, Resurrection Creek, and Chatanika

River, Alaska, US Environmental Protection Agency, June 1999.


2 Evaluating the Success of Spawning Habitat Enhancement on the Merced River, Robinson Reach, California Department of Fish and Game, 2002.


3 Miners Clean Washington Rivers and Streams, ICMJ’s Prospecting and Mining Journal, May 2007.
 By chuck2251

09/10/2009  6:56PM

Waterborne Carbon Increases Threat Of Environmental Mercury
ScienceDaily (Dec. 11, 2007) — Mercury is a potent neurotoxin and a worrisome environmental contaminant, but the severity of its threat appears to depend on what else is in the water.
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Researchers at the University of Wisconsin-Madison have found that the presence of dissolved organic material increases the biological risk of aqueous mercury and may even serve as an environmental mercury source.
Mercury is present throughout the environment in small quantities in rocks and in watery environments, including lakes, wetlands and oceans. It accumulates in fish living in mercury-contaminated waters, posing a health risk to animals and humans who eat the tainted fish.
The greatest threat comes from a form called methylmercury, which is more easily taken up by living tissues. The methylation process, therefore, is key to understanding the potential danger posed by environmental mercury, says UW-Madison geomicrobiologist John Moreau.
He presented his research findings at the American Geophysical Union meeting in San Francisco today (Dec. 10).
Environmental mercury is predominantly methylated by naturally occurring bacteria known as sulfate-reducing bacteria. These bacteria - Moreau calls them "little methylmercury factories" - absorb inorganic mercury from the water, methylate it and spit methylmercury back out into the environment.
"The bacteria take mercury from a form that is less toxic to humans and turn it into a form that is much more toxic," Moreau says. "[Methylation] increases mercury's toxicity by essentially putting it on a fast train into your tissue - it increases its mobility."
Many previous studies have focused on the chemical interactions between mercury and sulfur, which is known to bind to inorganic mercury and may regulate how well the bacteria can absorb it. However, scientists do not understand the factors that control the methylation process itself.
"Those studies have related methylation potential to geochemical variables," Moreau says. "We would like to take a bacterium that we know methylates mercury very efficiently and let it tell us what it can methylate and what it can't, under given conditions."
Moreau and colleagues at the U.S. Geological Survey, UW-Madison, the University of Colorado and Chapman University chose to look at the role of dissolved organic carbon (DOC), a richly colored brew created as plants and other organic materials decay into a soup of proteins, acids and other compounds. DOC can tint wetlands and streams shades of yellow to dark brown.
DOC has noticeable effects on bacterial mercury processing. "They seem to methylate mercury better with DOC present," says Moreau.
In the current studies, the scientists looked at the effects of DOC samples collected from two different organic-rich environments, a section of the Suwannee River and Florida's Everglades.
"We found that different DOCs have different positive effects on methylation - they both seem to promote mercury methylation, but to different degrees," Moreau explains.
Because DOC is virtually ubiquitous in aqueous environments, its effect on mercury processing may be an important factor in determining mercury bioavailability.
Moreau and his colleagues are now working to understand how DOC promotes methylation. One possibility is that DOC acts indirectly by increasing bacterial growth, while another is that DOC may directly interact with the mercury itself to boost its ability to enter bacteria.
Although mercury already in the environment is there to stay, Moreau says an understanding of what regulates mercury toxicity is critical for developing ecosystem-level management strategies.
"Strategies to deal with methylmercury production [should] lead to hopefully more efficient ways to reduce human consumption of methylmercury and lead to less potential human health problems," he says.
Adapted from materials provided by University of Wisconsin-Madison.
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 By chuck2251

09/10/2009  6:52PM

In late September 1977 a local air taxi operator sighted a large shark stranded on a beach 16 miles southwest of Ketchikan, Alaska. Fisheries biologist Robert Larson examined the shark on 30 September 1977. The adult male White Shark was 15 feet 4 inches in total length. Upon dissection of the shark's stomach about ""***100 opaque circular objects were discovered, each about 0.25 inches in diameter. John E. Fitch, Research Director, California Department of Fish & Game, Long Beach, subsequently identified them as lenses from fish eyes, most probably salmonids.***"" The number of lenses present in the shark's stomach suggests that fish might provide a larger percentage of adult White Shark nutritional requirements than previously thought. Although White Sharks appear to prefer pinnipeds (seals and sea lions) as their main staple after attaining maturity, they still consume fish. This fact has been overtly omitted, or frequently understated, over the last two or three decades by some White Shark researchers. The irrefutable evidence from this stranding tells us that adult White Sharks are apparently opportunistic predators and will readily take any prey species that is available.
 By chuck2251

09/10/2009  6:46PM

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|SENATE RULES COMMITTEE | SB 670|
|Office of Senate Floor Analyses | |
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THIRD READING


Bill No: SB 670
Author: Wiggins (D)
Amended: As introduced
Vote: 27 - Urgency


SENATE NATURAL RES. & WATER COMMITTEE : 8-3, 4/28/09
AYES: Pavley, Benoit, Kehoe, Leno, Padilla, Simitian,
Wiggins, Wolk
NOES: Cogdill, Hollingsworth, Huff

SENATE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE : Senate Rule 28.8


SUBJECT : Vacuum or suction dredge equipment

SOURCE : Author


DIGEST : This bill imposes a temporary moratorium on the
granting of new suction dredging permits until the ongoing
environmental review is certified. It provides that the
issuance of permits is not a ministerial act, and that,
therefore, such permits may not be issued until a valid
underlying environmental document is in place.

ANALYSIS : Under existing law, the Fish and Game Code
prohibits suction dredging except when permitted by the
Department of Fish and Game (DFG) and when consistent with
regulations adopted by the department. The statute
requires the regulations to designate streams where dredges
may be operated pursuant to a permit, streams where
dredging is not allowed, and the time or times of year when
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dredging is allowed.

Permit fees for residents are established at $25(47.00 )*unless a
site inspection is necessary in which the fee is $130.(194.00 ADDITIONAL)* The
respective non-resident fees are $100(185.25)* and $220. (222.00 ADDITIONAL)*
Approximately 3000 permits are issued annually.
*LIES YOU NEED TO CHECK THE FEES*

It is illegal to use a suction dredge within 100 feet of a
closed area.

This bill imposes a( temporary) moratorium on the granting of
( new) suction dredging permits until the ongoing
environmental review is certified. It provides that the
issuance of permits is not a ministerial act, and that,
therefore, such permits may not be issued until a valid
underlying environmental document is in place.

Background

According to a recent report by the Sierra Fund, an
estimated 26 million pounds of mercury were used to extract
gold from ore in California. Half of this mercury was lost
in the environment in placer and hard rock mining
operations where it remains in watersheds where it is
commonly encountered. Mercury runoff from these watersheds
is a source of mercury contamination of the California
Bay-Delta.

Suction dredgers remove gravel from riverbeds with a hose
powered by an engine. The water quality controversy
involves what opponents characterize as the "tendency" of
dredging operations to "flour"(THIS DOES NOT OCCUR) mercury in the water, making
it more readily available for bacteria to methylate, a
process that converts base mercury into a (developmental
neurotoxin) (NAME IT?) that accumulates in the food chain and that
humans ingest through fish that they consume. (WE TAKE OUT THE MERCURY)(ALONG
WITH LEAD FISHING WEIGHTS)

Dredgers may try to separate mercury from any amalgamated
gold, and the recovered mercury is then either stored or
disposed of in an unauthorized (SAYS WHO)manner. Storage of mercury
is subject to regulation also, but there is no available
information from state agencies that mercury obtained by
dredgers is regulated. (THEY WOULD BE REGULATED JUST THE SAME AS OTHER AMERICANS)


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Dredging permits issued by DFG state that the applicant
will comply with all appropriate water quality regulations.
However, the State Water Resources Control Board does not
have a program to regulate suction dredging.
The board(WHAT BOARD?) found, however, in a 2003 study, (REFERENCE THE STUDY) that dredging
exacerbates mercury contamination of rivers and streams.

FISCAL EFFECT : Appropriation: No Fiscal Com.: Yes
Local: No(ASK THE LOCAL SMALL TOWNS THAT MINERS FREQUENT)

SUPPORT : (Verified 5/11/09)

Cal Trout
California Coastkeeper Alliance
California Tribal Business Alliance
Clean Water Action
Friends of the River
Karuk Tribe
Pacific Coast Federation of Fishermen's Associations
Planning and Conservation League
Sierra Club California
Sierra Fund
Sierra Nevada Alliance

OPPOSITION : (Verified 5/11/09)

County of Siskyou
New 49'ers
Regional Council of Rural Counties

ARGUMENTS IN SUPPORT : Friends of the River supports the
bill but believes the temporary moratorium should be
expanded to include more than salmon streams.(SB760 COVERS ALL RIVERS,OBVIOUSLY THEY DID NOT READ THE BILL.) It believes
that suction dredging affects wild and scenic rivers, wild
trout populations, other wildlife, and river-based
recreational opportunities.

Many supporters categorize suction dredging as a rather
crude technology by which miners "literally vacuum up our
river beds and spawning grounds, and disturb and mobilize
the mercury left behind by gold mining operations" as was
stated in several letters. All of the supporters agree
that the rules governing this practice are outdated.


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Sierra Club California and Pacific Coast Federation of
Fishermen's Associations point to the ban on commercial
salmon fishing and argue that the salmon crisis threatens
thousands of jobs. Sierra Club California concludes that
"It simply does not make sense to jeopardize an entire
fishery, and to ask commercial fishermen to sit idle, while
allowing ongoing environmental harm for a recreational
hobby." WHAT ABOUT THE DAMS?HOW DO THEY HELP THE SALMON.

ARGUMENTS IN OPPOSITION : The Regional Council of Rural
Counties argues that the existing regulations are
sufficiently restrictive and protective and allow
individuals to legally mine their claims of precious
minerals. It points to parts of rural California where
mining remains an important port of the culture, history,
and economy of some local communities. Siskyou County
separately asserted these same concerns.

The New 49'ers, a mining advocacy group, argues that no
scientific information points to suction dredging as a
cause in the collapse of salmon, that the collapse is due
to ocean conditions and an over-reliance on hatchery fish,
and that a moratorium would violate the private property
rights of those who have federal mining claims and create
"takings" liability on the part of the state.


CTW:nl 5/11/09 Senate Floor Analyses

SUPPORT/OPPOSITION: SEE ABOVE

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AGAIN OUR LEGISLATORS FAIL TO READ A BILL (SB 760) THAT THEIR SO EAGER TO PASS. CLOSING ALL THE RIVERS TO SUCTION DREDGEING WILL NOT HELP THE SALMON. ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT FLOW EASTWARD FROM THE EAST SIDE OF THE SIERRAS. NOR WILL IT DO MUCH ON ALL THE WESTERN FLOOWING RIVERS THAT ARE DAMED UP WITHOUT FISH LADDERS. THE KERN RIVER FOR EXAMPLE HAS NO WAY IN HELL FOR A SALMON TO SWIM UP STREAM FROM THE OCEAN. WE HAVE NO MONEY TO KEEP PRISONERS IN JAIL, YET WE WILL FUND A STUDY AND CRIPPLE AN INDUSTRY THAT PROVIDES 60 MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR TO OUR CALIFORNIA ECONOMY. TO MY KNOWLEDGE A EVNVIRONMENTAL REPORT ON SUCTION GOLD DREGING WAS COMPLETED BY THE STATE IN 1994.DREGERS TAKE OUT MURCURY AND LEAD FROM THE RIVERS WICH ARE FAR MORE DETRAMENTAL TO OUR ENVIRONMENT. IF WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO WASTE IN OUR BUDGET PERHAPS A SELECT GROUP OF RIVERS THAT HAVE SALMON WOULD BE A BETTER CHOICE. YOU GUYS MIGHT WONDER,WHY WE HAVE LOST FAITH. ***
 By pal

08/18/2009  11:48AM

pat wiggins santa rosa ca please send letters to the press democrat P.O. box 910 santa rosa 95402 att. let the public speak. Dredging she is a fool, just a power grab
 By Dave I.

07/31/2009  4:00PM

BAD BAD NEWS: The judge in Alameda Superior Court put out an order to suspend the issue of dredge permits by the fish and game.
 By SCOOP

07/28/2009  4:51PM

There is a lot of iron on the mine site. You should see the old bone yard up the road. The crew hauled many loads of scrap iron to a site close to Henness Pass where transports will haul the scrap to Sacramento. Too bad the price dropped but there will be $$$ left over costs.

Now get this! Miners save iron stuff. Scoop asked the same thing and one afternoon pointed out iron junk. You should have heard the ear full about this part or that part, this just needs a ??? and it goes right back to work or Scoops favorite: this has copper, aluminum great hoses look at these valves worth saving and on and on.

A plan is underway to sell useless scrap (junk to many). Scoop will let you know when the first truck load leaves Alleghany.
 By ajmck2

07/28/2009  3:53PM

After the last share holders meeting ,I was really amazed at the amount of steel and stuff left rusting all around the mine. Is there some way the mine could sell all the scrap metal and bring in a little cash just to pay the electric bill maybe? It seems a shame to see all the compressors and equipment just sit there and rust to death. I know that stuff was not cheap to buy.
Alan
 By WSLMAN

07/15/2009  2:33PM

IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE WHO POSSESSES ONE OR MORE OF THE MINE'S ORIGINALLY ISSUED 1OZ BULLION BARS? IF SO, I WOULD APPRICIATE SPEAKING WITH YOU REGARDING A POSSIBLE PURCHASE OF AT LEAST ON BAR. THIS IS FOR HISTORIC REASONS, AS I HAVE SEVERAL SAMPLES OF GOLD IN QUARTZ, BUT THE MINE HAS NOT HAD THE 1OZ BARS FOR SALE FOR ABOUT 8-10 YEARS NOW. THANK YOU IN ADVANCE AND I LOOK FORWARD TO ANY FEEDBACK YOU CAN PROVIDE.

BEST REGARDS,

DAVE
 By Dave I.

05/16/2009  1:26PM

It is very important to get as much support on the opposition of this bill. A simple phone call to your state Senator informing him or her that you oppose SB 670.
Is all you need to do.
 By bluejay

05/16/2009  11:49AM

I just ran into the following and thought it might be of interest to some:

http://www.goldgold.com/legal/670_flash-actionalert.htm

The vote to Ban suction Dredging in California is coming Monday....

We just received word from our lobbyists in Sacramento that Senate Bill 670 (anti suction dredging legislation) will be put up for a vote in the senate this coming Monday, May 18! Because this is moving forward as "urgency legislation," 27 "Aye" votes will be required in the Senate to keep this bill alive. Therefore, if we all act quickly, we have a real chance at defeating this very bad bill. Here is a link to our Action Alert:

http://www.goldgold.com/legal/670_flash-actionalert.htm

Included there, is a link to help those of you in California to locate an email contact form for your State senator. For those of you residing outside of California, our very capable lobbyists have targeted 6 senators for you to direct faxes to. We will need all emails and faxes to get to these senators no later than 12 noon on Monday, May 18. That's only a few days away! Our Action Alert also includes a link to some talking points from which you can copy and paste to create your own messages. Emails should be kept short to prevent them from being rejected by automated electronic filtering! Please remember that your own names and addresses must be included with any messages that you send. I am sorry this is happening on such short notice. It's the way things are when our adversaries control the legislative process! We can still win this battle though; but only if we all pitch in right now and make our voices heard to these senators by noon, this Monday! Thanks for whatever you can do to help!

They have studies up the Wazo that Small mining dredging actually cleans the gravel, cleans the Mercury from natural and historical deposits,
It's good for fish and spawning beds. And it helps local economies.
If you have access to a Fax....pop off a short missive.

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