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Gold Enters Major Bull Market

By bluejay
02/13/2012 10:49PM

REAP

I saw the report from India concerning their cultural beliefs in gold. There is absolutely no way of breaking this trend. Thanks for the thought.

Concerning other mining companies taking an equity interest in the company, being in California is a gigantic negative. On the positive side, if we can gain access to some technology that sees through the quartz and slate to illuminate gold's hiding places, well, that's a different story that prospective partners would be quite interested in.

David

I think someday officials won't have a choice in accepting gold in some form of direct backing but not specifically for the dollar as we know it. It will be a new form of currency that I have been hearing about for years which is the vaults of banks across the country awaiting from the word from above. Power and greed die hard.

Gold $1717.40 DOWN $4.50
Silver $33.54 DOWN $0.18

Gold, especially, looks like it's ready to roll over and drift or spike lower. I would be happy to be wrong. If the $1667 level fails quickly, I can see some panic selling. Aside from subjectively looking at the daily and weekly charts, the worse case scenario could drop the metal into the low $1200's over a time period, perhaps, of a few months or a matter of weeks. Just fast enough to shake the metals from the inexperienced into the hands of the manipulators and professionals. It's an old story. Don't be duped into selling if a tremor hits.

I know this is an extreme thought for most everyone to envision but one must be intuitively creative for survival. It just looks like the right time to flush out the gold market which has to happen from time to time during any bull market. The most important thing, whether it happens or not is, to be mentally prepared and have your own plan in case of a short term flash fire.

The upcoming years will be kind to gold following any scary reaction which will pale in the face of $1000 intermediate advances to follow. The key here is not to get shaken out of your long term precious metal positions.

Although this estimate of gold's potential to flip over and slide is contrary to some pretty well established people in the industry who remain bullish, I guess WE'LL just have to wait and SEE.

Personally, I have reduced my exposure by 10%.

By REAP
02/13/2012 7:53AM

Bluejay, I think you will enjoy this vidio. It is a clip from CBS 60 Minutes.

http://www.mining.com/2012/02/13/60-minutes-covers-indias-gold-obsession/?utm_source=digest-en-au-120213&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=digest

The clip is a very colorful way of showing that the Bull Market will continue because there are NO BEARS in India.

Also, have you given any thought about a Private Placement of stock with mining companies?

By David I
02/04/2012 10:23AM

There is away to to bring back the dollar to the gold standard. This could easily be done as documenting a gold reserve trade document in value based on the gold or slver weight certificate. This the would fluctuate in value by comparing It to the world spot value of gold or silver.

By bluejay
01/28/2012 12:28PM

Questionable Status To The Dollar Remaining The World's Reserve Currency.

An excerpt from today's International Forecaster:

Earlier this week, DEBKAfile published an article that, if true, may be the single most important story of the past year.

The headline reads, “India to pay gold instead of dollars for Iranian oil. Oil and gold markets stunned." Oil and gold
markets must be stunned. The U.S. government must be stunned. Those who believe in the value of the dollar must be stunned. The world’s central bankers and New World Order (both of which are built on fiat currencies) must be stunned.

It’s one thing for the nations of the world (to) pay fiat rubles, fiat rupees or fiat Yuan (rather than fiat dollars) for crude oil. Such payments hurt the fiat dollar’s illusory value, but leave the power of fiat currencies and central banks largely untouched.

Paying for crude oil with gold rather than fiat dollars, attacks all fiat currencies and not only threatens to terminate the dollar’s role as World Reserve Currency, but threatens to prevent any new fiat currency from taking its place. From the perspective of the U.S. and New World Order, paying gold for crude oil must be deemed an act of war.

According to the DEBKAfile report,

“India is the first buyer of Iranian oil to agree to pay for its purchases in gold instead of the US dollar, debkafile’s intelligence and Iranian sources report exclusively. Those sources expect China to follow suit. India and China take about one million barrels per day, or 40 percent of Iran’s total exports of 2.5 million bpd. Both are superpowers in terms of gold assets.”

1 million barrels at $100/barrel = $100 million per day. At current prices, we’re talking almost 60 thousand ounces of gold per day = roughly 2 tons of gold per day. The U.S. and London commodities markets may soon see an increased daily demand for 2 tons of physical gold.
The sale of Iranian oil for gold is a mortal blow to any plans by the globalists to replace the fiat dollar with some other “new and improved” fiat currency.

If India and China are allowed to start paying their debts with gold, the next “world reserve currency” could only be gold. No more fiat currencies. No more “spinning money (fiat currency) out of thin air”. No more big governments. No more central bankers.

If an agreement to pay Iran 2 tons a day in gold for oil is allowed to stand, the dollar’s demise will be accelerated and the New World Order will be virtually destroyed.

By bluejay
01/27/2012 6:13PM

Gold $1737.30 UP $16.80
Silver $33.99 UP $ 0.52

Not a bad day.

By bluejay
01/25/2012 6:05PM

Gold $1707.90 UP $41.50
Silver $33.01 UP $ 0.96

The World's rich moved more of their idle money into the precious metals today. A dovish FOMC statement concerning interest rates along with the fact that large oil importers are electing to begin paying for their crude originating in the Mid-East by currencies other than dollars ignited gold while the Dollar Index sold off.

By bluejay
01/18/2012 9:47AM

REAP - Thanks for the information.

Gold $1656.30 UP $4.70
Silver $30.48 UP $0.42

Gold is continuing to repair suspected damage when it sold under its 200 day average some past weeks ago. In past years each time this happened it was an excellent time to load up on gold as well as a scary time for holders of the metal. Remaining above its current average at 1634.30 only invigorates gold to climb higher.

Silver has been quiet lately but things appear to be changing with its recent improved relative strength against the senior metal. Silver appears ready to push past the 30 level with conviction as it's in the process of completing a head and shoulders reversal pattern with a neckline at roughly, 30 dollars.

Both Jim Sinclair and Martin Armstrong concur that a new high in gold will be established this year. Jim thinks 2100 while Martin hasn't yet put a price on it.
Looking out further down the road, Mr. Armstrong believes that the following years of 2013 and 2014 could, overall, be lower as the gold readies for its big push into the heavens beginning in late 2014 to early 2015.

Although gold shares are considered by many to be under-valued, the naked shorts are always ready to prey on certain ones that are either low activity explorers or some some of the seniors that fail to meet market expectations.

Regulators continue to look the other way concerning investment banks and hedge funds pulverizing many of the low priced related sector stocks with their potent naked short selling schemes. This is mainly allowed to build up the balance sheets of the major New York City banks at the public's expense. The bottom line is, the public has and will continue to be bilked. IMO, the only one that can stop this, if elected, is Ron Paul. Otherwise, if someone else gets in, it will be business as usual, regardless of what comes out of their pie holes proceeding elections.

I would venture to guess that billions of dollars have already been stolen from shareholders via the fraud of permitting naked short selling.

By REAP
01/17/2012 1:25PM

Bluejay, here's some very interesting statistics reported by Price Waterhouse PwC:

Eighty percent of gold company executives expect gold to continue rising in 2012 and a majority says it will peak at $2,000, according to the results of a new survey by PwC.

PwC’s 2012 Gold Price Report surveyed companies representing 26.5 million ounces of gold mined in 2011, and 37.75 million ounces to be mined in 2012.

AND

PwC calculates a total of 544 gold acquisitions were made in 2011 at an approximate value of $11.2 billion. As of November 30th, the M&A volume increased 12.6% from the same period last year but the value dropped by 38.4%.

This M&A activity might suggest that a Private Placement of stock with some mining companies could be a viable way to go.

Ron

By bluejay
01/09/2012 11:15PM

Gold $1620.20 UP $9.20
Silver $29.13 UP $0.08

Interesting gold facts:

http://www.numbersleuth.org/worlds-gold/

By bluejay
01/07/2012 9:49AM

Keeping your eye on the ball

From Bob Chapman:

) History. For 30 centuries, gold and silver have held the monopoly as the only real moneys and “World Reserve Currencies”.
During that time, there’ve been numerous attempts to install fiat monetary systems. But every fiat currency in the past 3,000 years has collapsed—usually within 30 to 60 years from their inception. The fiat dollar is already 41 years old. If history repeats itself, the fiat dollar must also collapse. Until that collapse, the price of gold denominated in fiat dollars must rise.

By bluejay
01/04/2012 4:32PM

The following are excerps from the article "Gold To Be Bold In 2012 With Its Own Contracting Fibonacci Spiral" spoken by David Petch on January 3, 2012:

Adding together the sum of parts( of the Contracting Fibonacci Spiral), the price of gold will move up in price in 2013, 2016, 2018, 2019 and 2020, with each subsequent leg moving less in percentage terms than the prior move.

Gold advanced 4 foldish from 1999 until 2008 ($252/ounce to $1046/ounce). This suggests that gold should top out below $4000/ounce over the course of the next year (Personally, the highest I think it can reach is $3074/ounce). The price of gold is likely to top out near $7-10,000/ounce by 2020, but each advance will be lower in percentage terms of the former leg.

By bluejay
01/04/2012 11:06AM

Gold $1614.90 UP $11.30
Silver $29.22 DOWN $0.49

Go to:

http://www.bobchapman.blogspot.com/ and listen to Mike Maloney's thoughts concerning the precious metals.

By bluejay
12/29/2011 12:31PM

Gold $1548.00 OFF $8.30
Silver $27.47 UP $0.32

The metals have recovered from early morning lows where Gold hit $1522 while Silver traded nearly at $26.

Even though, for the moment, the bankers and the central bank miscreants manipulate the precious metals lower to make their power thrones more comfortable, it is imperative that future financial survivors add to and maintain their positions.

In retrospect, here are some wise words from Martin Armstrong delivered in a July 13, 2011 article concerning gold:

The key area to watch for year-end will be last year’s close of $1421.40. A close below this area would imply a retest of support for 2012 before a surge back to the upside. A close ABOVE this level will warn that 2012 will produce a new high, but we could then retest support for up to two years into 2014 and rebuild again with the high being extended even further out most likely into January 2020. That would be forming at an astronomical new price level depending solely upon the monetary system. The dollar as we know it will disappear. The default will involve a new currency swapped for the old as was the case with the Continental Currency when the US was formed. That was Europe’s problem. They retained the old debts, revalued them with the new higher currency the Euro, and now wonder why Greece, Italy, Portugal, and Ireland are in trouble? Hello! Does anybody understand currency?

By bluejay
12/22/2011 10:52AM

From yesterday's International Forecaster:

"The big ultimate question is, who will bail out the US? The answer is no one and that is why ultimately there will be a meeting of all nations, which will revalue and devalue all currencies against one another and have a multinational default and debt settlement. That means everyone gets to pay some of the losses, except of course those who own gold and silver related assets. All the elitists know that they can monetize money and credit only for so long before hyperinflation takes place. Thus, there will be an end game."

By bluejay
12/18/2011 10:46AM

A few recent thoughts from Jim Sinclair:

Gold is the most manipulated market on the planet. Painting charts to accumulate has been a fact since 2003. China is a master painter of the world cash gold chart. That is why in this entire gold bull market every major up move in gold has been proceeded by a horrid technical formation or break that reversed out of nowhere.

By bluejay
12/17/2011 11:30PM

"All major US, UK and European banks are broke and they are staying alive by using inside information, which puts them on the right side of every trade." Bob Chapman

By bluejay
12/16/2011 12:24PM

Gold $1594.70 UP $24.00
Silver $29.51 UP $ 0.23

The following startling excerpt was just recently made available concerning gold by Martin Armstrong in his dated 12-15-11 artile entitled, Whats's Up With Gold:

"The weekly closing below $1605 will confirm what is coming down the pike. There just has to be a cleaning out of tired longs who have been sitting there counting their profits like chickens based upon unfertilized eggs. All the indicators have been warning that a correction is
coming. The fundamental mantra
about fiat currency is getting old. The market is poised for retest of the 1225-1325 area going into 2012 which is the key support.

So, what to do? Although, Jim Sinclair says gold is poised to move higher and above $2000 and Bob Chapman's call to continue buying gold and silver in this continuing down phase due to international expanding debt problems, one has to wonder.

Since Martin Armstrong first alerted readers of expected downward pressures in the price of gold to develope right around Labor Day when the metal was much higher, it is expected with his high batting average compared to the other two that the odds favor his continued success.

The bottom of the monthly ascending channel line now stands at about $1400. It is possible for this line to be temporarily breached and still remain long term bullish.

Now, instead of buying gold coins down every $50 I've change my plan to purchase them down every $75 from the preceding purchase.

It appears if Armstrong is correct in his technical analysis of gold that the naked short selling wrecking crew element will be pressuring lower the gold and silver related companies. So, be prepared.

For every gold party there is always a price to pay. We are just now in the midst of the hangover session. During this period there will be opportunities and it is fully expected China will take full advantage of all of them by adding to their growing hoard.

By bluejay
12/14/2011 8:02PM

Gold $1571.40 OFF $59.50
Silver $29.02 OFF $ 1.82

We are reminded by the media on an hourly basis during this sell-off that it's all over for gold. Well, that's the theme they're trying to sell us and scaring some people in the process. Some folks are not getting scared but are really excited about lower gold prices, these are the Chinese.

China holds about 1% of their reserves in gold. Their expressed interest is in building up that percentage to 10% which is equivalent to three years of world gold production. Where's that gold coming from?

The Chinese do have some consideration for price but it is supected they are more interested in building up their holdings in a slow and methodical way. It is believed that prices have been somewhat restrained from advancing by them awaiting Europe to unload their gold reserves.

It looks like the European Central Bank is being set-up to sell their gold reserves at a rediculously low price, closely following in the footsteps of what dum-dum Gordon Brown did to his country when gold was under $300. And as I remember, Gordie made the case for going into a small basket of currencies and selling gold far superior than holding a dust accumulating asset that had no return. What a buffoon!

The media is full of weirdo's, that just don't want to get it, one of which is Dennis Gartman http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/top-business-stories/dennis-gartman-out-of-gold-proclaims-death-of-a-bull/article2269368/ and another is Jon Nader from kitco.com. Beware of these people and their out-of-touch ideas.

Sure, gold could go lower but this is only a temporary pause within a powerful bull market. Aside from naysayers attacking gold, it is still the safest assset class as long as you have physical possession of it and don't trust someone else to hold it for you. The recent negative events surrounding MF Global is a game changer in allowing someone else to hold any part of your wealth.

As mentioned, I've been in the market acquiring gold coins on this spell of weakness. Seems odd that the Southern California coin dealer I use has extremely limited supplies of Mexican 50 Peso gold coins along with others.

I just read the following tonight from a Warren Bevan's report in kitco.co from a few days ago entitled, Gold Shortages Are Real:

The fact that large gold buyers are having trouble acquiring physical is encouraging though, as a major miners CEO was interviewed this past week he told of large buyers contacting the company directly in hopes of buying physical gold from the company and skipping the now dodgy futures market.

This is a major shift and speaks volumes about the lack of trust in the futures market now after the failure and robbery undertaken by MF Global.

This current cascading gold market is just searching for a bottom. Where is stops in time and price is anyone's guess. If gold is off another $50 or so tomorrow I'll be back on the phone.

By bluejay
12/12/2011 8:12PM

Tonight from the Casey Daily Dispatch:

Bottom line: We believe that a mania of epic proportions still lies ahead(for gold). No telling exactly when that train will leave the station, so we want to get on board now while the market is weak and prices are low. However, we also don't want to go all in, not because we're concerned about the eventual end game for this market, but because we want to have cash to deploy at lower prices before the mania, should a much greater correction give us the chance to do so.

By bluejay
12/12/2011 7:49PM

Gold $1655.00 OFF $32.30
Silver $31.01 OFF $ 0.35
U.S. Dollar 79.55 UP 0.60

Selling down below symmetrical triangle support at $1675 on the surface normally would be negative but with so many orchestrated manipulations in the gold market by fiat based central banks, one has to weight in the miscreants hand at chart painting.

It's been beneficial for many experienced market participants in the past to embrace the fear that is brought to them with declining markets. Jim Sinclair said a few days ago that gold will lash around within 300 and 400 dollars during this bull market and you should be prepared.

The bottom line according to Jim is, buy the declines and sell a little on the good advances. If you get scared out of your gold on declines you will be on your own later and will be the pavement for the keepers of gold.

I purchased two Mexican gold coins today below gold's price on eBay. Tomorrow, I'm thinking of buying a few 50 Peso coins from golddealer.com.

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