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 By bluejay

04/28/2012  1:04PM

Past interesting comments from the Supreme Court concerning balance of power for the protection of our liberties that the Founding Fathers gave us, one and all.

http://www.newswithviews.com/Stang/alan192.htm
 By bluejay

04/28/2012  12:31PM

Support your local Sheriff as he or she is for the locals as opposed to the folks who are debasing the Constitution.

Great story below:

http://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/montana/article_463ba502-6cb6-11df-b804-001cc4c03286.html
 By bluejay

04/28/2012  10:45AM

Scoop

Thanks for the updates on the property.

Concerning our potential to be somewhat energy independent, I considr PG&E's rejection for us to produce natural clean water power to be completely irresponsible and a act of terrorism against the mine and the local community.

PG&E being allowed to dictate to us and the folks of Alleghany "what we need" is another complete failure by regulators and proof government has become to big. This whole thing should have been approved on the local level and enforced by the Sheriff who has the ultimate power aside from the State and Federal wishes. Make no mistake about this, the Sheriff has the authority, he just has to believe it.

Not even allowing us to have, at the least, an emergency source of back-up energy in the case of any serious electrical interruption is quite simply to me, criminal.

As example of their stupidity: what happens when solar flare activity reaches its greatest intensity in December when electric motors generating electricty become effected and the mine and the city of Alleghany goes black? Wouldn't the potential of water power be a better bet to keep the mine and the city running?

Who knows what other natural disasters may be coming our way? Intelligently preparing for the unexpected is how to run a company, a city, a county, a state and a country.

Even the US government has built a multi-billion dollar facility underground at the Denver Airport in case of potential disasters with their own self generating power source along with other supports to sustain life. Is an electrical producing company telling them what to do?

Of course, in an emergency we will never be able to gain access to this facility, its for government employees, their families and their friends. So, PG&E because of their their short sightedness or continuing profit motives or complete dumbness have actually reduced our chances to survive emergencies.

I guess they have the same mental deficiencies that big brother has in handing out our money in the form of million dollar bonuses to the administators of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac who have total losses each quarter of $6 billion. What a joke! Not to mention all the other financial handouts of our money to the folks who supported the winners of political elections.

Someday the power to Alleghany will be cut-off for an undeterminable period of time and that's just the way its going to be. PG&E is not god. What have they have done by rejecting our Phelton wheel is a crime against the people of the mine and the city of Alleghany, I kid you not.
 By SCOOP

04/27/2012  2:30PM

Two calls asked for more on the weather, inspections and the mine. The weather is always a topic of interest and the past months were no exception. Weather does not affect the underground mine. Conditions are about the same every day and night. Heavy rain caused a lot of damage to the long roads from the mine gate to the portal. Right now an Excavator, back hoe, D-6 dozer, a grader, a dump truck and a 966 Cat front end loader are on the mine site repairing the damage. TV news reports the weather and says, “Scattered showers in the Sierra.” Well, Alleghany took some major hits from those scattered showers. Interestingly, there were no slides affecting the mine roads. Highway 49 and the Ridge Road into Alleghany suffered many slides plus down trees.

Alleghany also had scattered warm spells during the winter and spring, very few snow storms and only two power outages. Scoop took off on snow shoes two Saturdays ago and last Saturday sweated outside during maintenance chores.

The announced exploration project is moving ahead with the usual unexpected problems associated with setting up a new heading. The air compressor acted up for three shifts by cutting out , which affects drilling, loading the drill holes and running the mucking machine. Compressed air is the blood of this mine and electricity is its fuel. Too bad that PG&E chose not to support developing the mine’s abundant on site water power. Too much talk about conservation and too little support from both business and government. This mine was green before the concept of green appeared.

Those inspectors keep showing up: CAL/OSHA and federal MSHA. Mike likes qualified inspectors to help keep the safety standards first rate. Years ago when MSHA first was established the inspectors could make suggestions without writing a citation. Now MSHA has inspectors following other inspectors to snoop around and see if the initial inspector failed to write up a potential citation. Too bad! All these regulating agencies must change from cop/ lawyer/judge/savior mentalities.

MSHA sent a pleasant young inspector to the mine last month that had no underground mining experience. His two citations are being challenged, which a good process built into the regulations. He saw a crack in a rock and thought the miners’ safety was in danger. The crew bared down the rock, creating a dangerous situation which required placing two stulls in the area. They told the inspector that the situation did not require barring down due to the location and quality of the rock but did the work only because he considered in dangerous. It cost the crew a day. Mike wrote a letter to MSHA and suggested they set up an underground training program at the Sixteen to One so future inspectors without experience in the Sierra Nevada gold mines don’t freak out when they see a crack.
 By SCOOP

04/26/2012  10:30AM

Where has Scoop been lately? Busy as a bee maybe busier!
An OSHA inspector came up and inspected the mine yesterday. It went well.
16 to 1 is trading scrap metal for road grading as the road to the mine was in very bad shape. The old D8 that hasn't been used in close to 20 years was seen leaving Alleghany on a flat bed truck the other day. Wonder how much it weighs?
The 2011 annual reports should start hitting the "printing press" (copy machine) later today.
It is raining in Alleghany after a week of incredibly warm weather. On Friday April 13th we awoke to 3 feet of fresh powder on the ground. It melted quickly!!! Looks like spring in the mountains with the daffodils in bloom.
 By SCOOP

03/16/2012  7:52AM

The speed of our web-site is much better on the new host. Some "behind the scenes" work is still being done before we can post regular updates to the page.
The date for the annual shareholders meeting had been added to the home page before our site "crashed" but vanished since. Just an FYI to our Shareholders, the annual meeting is scheduled for Saturday June 23rd. Date of record for proxies is April 2nd.
The 2011 10-K (Annual filing) was filed with the SEC timely on March 5th. Send an email to corp@origsix.com if you would like a copy via email.
Rain, rain and more rain. Most of the snow that we got earlier in the month is gone, but rumor is that more is on the way starting tonight.
 By SCOOP

03/14/2012  2:18PM

Testing, testing, one, two, three. Welcome back to the website. This site first appeared in 1995. For the past ten days, its host failed and was not able or willing to find and fix the problem. Now there is a new host and it is almost half a world away. Our comments are now going to the country of Hungary. Scoop missed the FORUM and is pleased it is back on line. Good luck.
 By martin newkom

02/22/2012  4:04PM

The planning department in Sierra
County is much like the planning
staff in Alpine, another small
county. They're philosophy is not
to stiffel and discourage local
business endeavors but to Enhance
and Encourage them. My chapeaut
is off to them and to others like.
They realize they are working for us and not us for them!!
 By SCOOP

02/22/2012  1:54PM

Big Move Forward for Sixteen to One

This morning the Sierra County Planning Commission approved the rezoning of the Sixteen to One mine from General Forest to Industrial. The project involves a County initiated Zone Amendment that was included in the County General Plan. Twenty five agencies received notice of the proposed change. None raised environmental concerns. The planning staff findings say, “The proposal will not have a significant adverse effect on the environment and is statutorily exempt from the California Environmental Quality Act.

The commission took action recommending the Sierra County Supervisors approve the zone amendment project and adopt an ordinance amending the zoning from GF District to IN District pursuant to Sierra County Code 15.32et.seq. Paper will be completed this Spring after another public hearing (required by law).

Mike Miller testified before the Commission stating that this action is good for the Sixteen to One and also may benefit other mining operations in Sierra County. After the meeting Scoop learned that another significant result from this project is the changes it makes to California’s claim that the Sixteen to One qualifies for regulation under the Surface Mining and Reclamation Act of 1976. Miller has issues with the Department of Conservation enforcement of the position of the agency. “This mine has operated over 100 years and is an underground gold mine not a surface mine. SMARA has a purpose to protect people, communities and the environment; however, it is a stretch to count our mine as one under that law.” Most rural and small counties lean for local control instead of Sacramento’s interpretation of life in the back country. Congratulations to the planning staff and commissioners for their actions today.
 By martin newkom

02/11/2012  4:35PM

Our people in Sierra County who
have relatives in Sutter Co.(Yuba City) have told us that Sierra Co.seeks to issue a Pension bond which the PERS wants a lot of interest(variable) to float it.
Umqua Bank features a better deal, it was deternined.
But why couldn't the 'Sixteen' contract with the County to mine and provide funds for the county to avoid the pension bond and mine enough for themselves to pay their back
property tax in the process?
 By martin newkom

02/11/2012  4:35PM

Our people in Sierra County who
have relatives in Sutter Co.(Yuba City) have told us that Sierra Co.seeks to issue a Pension bond which the PERS wants a lot of interest(variable) to float it.
Umqua Bank features a better deal, it was deternined.
But why couldn't the 'Sixteen' contract with the County to mine and provide funds for the county to avoid the pension bond and mine enough for themselves to pay their back
property tax in the process?
 By martin newkom

02/11/2012  4:34PM

Our people in Sierra County who
have relatives in Sutter Co.(Yuba City) have told us that Sierra Co.seeks to issue a Pension bond which the PERS wants a lot of interest(variable) to float it.
Umqua Bank features a better deal, it was deternined.
But why couldn't the 'Sixteen' contract with the County to mine and provide funds for the county to avoid the pension bond and mine enough for themselves to pay their back
property tax in the process?
enough gold
 By SCOOP

02/10/2012  3:14PM

A rich cache of historical photographs arrived this week for the Underground Gold Miners Museum thanks to the generosity of a benefactor. We can hope some will find their way to this website. Scoop says “hope” because for almost a month no one has been able to put photographs on the website and nobody seems to know how to solve this problem.

Pictures include pre fires and before automobiles. It’s the horse and buggy days plodding through the snowy narrow street. China town is visible on the north side of Main Street. There are pictures with early cars and trucks. Sometimes the miners are wearing cloth hats underground. Children are marching in parades along with bands playing. Alleghany is an historic place. History making will return when the gold miners are given an opportunity to mine for gold.
 By SCOOP

01/26/2012  2:42PM

A lawsuit against the Company was filed by the California Department of Conservation on January 6. 2010. The Company was coerced by threats of Surface Mining Reclamation Act fees, penalties and paying for the expenses of government lawyers of $351,000 and the government’s overwhelming power of litigation to settle the odd lawsuit. The lawsuit came as a surprise to the Company because the governing appointed board over the Department of Conservation’s lawsuit never conducted an administration hearing on the matter. Due process, established in California for airing differences with state agencies was denied the Company. “Maybe it is just a sad reflection of the times,” said Michael Miller, who is responsible for authorizing the settlement.
 By Rick

01/13/2012  5:31PM

This is of bomb-shell development significance to our Constitutional rights!

Its actually possible that my use of the above adjective will encarcerate me into eternity for the threat meant only in prosaic terms. In other words: watch what you say, because it may land you in prison.

Which country am I living in?

The old lethal bad-guy terrorist definition has just morphed into a new potential for authoritarian definition: POLITICAL TERRORISM, (the phrase predicted here first) although Ayn Rand and George Orwell wrote about the concept, now manifesting into reality.

In case anyone thinks I've gone "off my rocker" please check back (in a personal sense) to see if I've been disappeared in the next couple of years. I'm serious. Once a regime re-defines purpose and combines with the cyber technological ability to parse words and phrases, identify and locate the "offenders" and hence target said potential "threats" to the "good of the country"....we're screwed.

THE MOST IMPORTANT issue at hand for our freedom at this moment in time is the teeter-totter swing of our courts, and the potential for appointment to the US Supreme Court to be swayed by an opportunistic authoritarian administration hell-bent upon forcing control upon us.

This is why we vote.
 By bluejay

01/11/2012  2:12PM

http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-01-06/politics/30596530_1_president-obama-political-humor-obama
 By bluejay

01/11/2012  10:25AM

Martin Armstrong weighs in concerning our long established rights:

http://www.martinarmstrong.org/files/Ron%20Paul%20Last%20Hope/index.htm
 By Rae Bell

01/11/2012  8:34AM

Please read the article posted under "News" this morning. Please share.
 By SCOOP

12/31/2011  3:21PM

Goodbye to the year 2011. The upcoming year is glorious to ponder. Scoop was seriously conflicted by the hostile pursuits of awful misconduct by California’s civil servants towards the Sixteen to One. Scoop knew more than he could write. Scoop realized the hardships inflicted by both the water agency staff and various public lawyers on the company, mine and its crew. A dark cloud of destruction without the right to face your accusers hung over the mine. Just weeks ago that cloud vanished with the dismissal of the motion for summary judgment. Although legal issues remain, Scoop (who really studied the facts and laws) tells you right now that if the water board and the mine fail to settle the issue, the water board will lose in court. The insanity of this lawsuit is the lawyers claiming that the whole deal is for the People of the State of California. Can you recall what BS means?

Besides the water lawsuit a second law suit is being prosecuted by the same public agency, California’s Attorney General. Wow, this one is also filed for the People of California. Aren’t they civil servants nice to us! These lawsuits add thousands of dollars to an already insolvent state and by some radical twist of fate the plaintiffs win, there is no money to collect for the people. What are the motivational factors driving this insane bunch of civil servants? Guesses welcomed.

The second lawsuit seeks money because of allegations that the mine violates surface mining reclamation regulations (SMARA to its followers). Just as the water servants cherry picked the water regulations (Pointed out by the judge in his decision), the social department hired to protect California’s natural resources for the benefit of California is doing the same thing. Is another motion for summary judgment heading towards the beleaguered mine? No, but if Scoop is wrong, the mine owners should seek high monetary damages under a choice of numerous legal bad behavior regulations and laws.

The 2012 year will be a great one for everyone associated with the 100- year old company and its 150 year old mines. There remains much to do to make this year fantastic. Many other people are needed to move progress but the irrefutable fact, one that has not and cannot be tampered with, is the gold deposit itself. There are few in the world that equals its excitement.

If you have some time as the old year fades away, scan through the FORUM topics or read the entire NEWS or Newsletter sections or any of the other headings. Think about what it will be like when 30 or 40 miners restart digging for gold.

To again quote Damon Runyan, Guys and Dolls as Mike did on December 22,2011 under How to Approach Thin Veins & Cost : “The race may not always to be the swift, nor the battle to the strong; but that’s the way to bet.”

Dark clouds have hovered over Alleghany from time to time. They may drop trouble but they always disappear. Maybe it’s just this warm sunny day in winter in the Sierra Nevada Mountains, but Scoop knows that the tide turned last year and a ship of gold is incoming on a fresh tide.
 By SCOOP

12/19/2011  2:49PM

Look at the homepage for some recent postings, to those of you who look here (at the FORUM) first.
An MSHA inspector showed up last week. Because nobody was working at the mine that day he was not able to complete his inspection.
Alleghany Volunteer Fire Department had their annual Christmas Party for the kids on Saturday. The weather was incredibly warm for December 17th. People with long-sleeve shirts were peeling them off. A very good turnout. Lots of new young faces in Alleghany, the most recent being born in August of this year.
There was a Title 22 Refresher class (First Aid for Public Safety Personnel) held at Underground Gold Miners Museum on Sunday. Nine local volunteer firefighters attended.
The front porch of the historical church in Alleghany was recently replaced. It looks very nice!
No snow in sight, it is looking as if we will not be having a white Christmas this year.

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